Showing posts with label Sigma SD1. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sigma SD1. Show all posts

Tuesday, 10 April 2012

The problem with the Sigma SD1

Extensive review of the Sigma DS1 Merril at Dpreview :-
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sigmasd1/


Pretty much as expected.

However I looked very closely at the samples and you get this.
From the centre of one of the samples. Impressive.

Then I looked at the two edges from the same picture.



Not so impressive. In fact not very good at all. Taken on a Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 zoom at f/8. Unfortunately it seems Sigma are having a good go at sabotaging their brilliant (if somewhat limited) sensor with the lenses they produce for it.

Having spent the afternoon with my X-Pro 1 and a couple of Voigtlander m-mounts, I can report that there are no such problems with lenses and an image quality thats about the same from straight out of the camera jpgs.

I'm putting together samples and a post for tomorrow on that. But just to wet your appetite, the most fun I've had for ages with a camera in my hand, and the pictures were pretty good too!!

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Tuesday, 14 February 2012

Sigma SD1 for £999!!

Interesting add on the Park Cameras website. It has now been changed as I phoned and its NOT in stock. I did ask if this was the price it was going to be sold at and was told it "probably" was. We shall see. Incidentally its still being advertised at £6000+ on some other websites. This is really one of the great camera retailing cock ups of all time, and Sigma need to sort this out asap.

Wednesday, 8 February 2012

Sigma SD1 price slashed


This mornings news bombshell isn't the finally announced Olympus OM-D, which is almost exactly as predicted / leaked / rumoured etc. But the fact that Sigma are renaming the SD1 and literally slashing the price. From an original asking price of $9000 the SD1 Merrill, (the same camera) is being predicted to be on sale for a street price of $2299. Absolutely unbelievable. 

This has to be some kind of reaction caused by the death of the previous CEO, the father of the current one. If this is something to do with the fact of the previous CEO having to "save face" by not dropping the price while he was alive and then as soon as he's dead the company suddenly gets realistic, then the people who have bought it at the original price have every reason to feel betrayed and bitter. There is apparently going to be some kind of points reward for those purchasers, but I would have thought a large cheque in the post was more appropriate.

This is an astonishing climbdown and I must admit one that shows a great deal about what world some of these companies exist in, particularly those in the far east. I'm not going to make any comments specifically about this, but reading between the lines, I'm sure you get the point.

From a purely selfish angle, at that price I would be VERY interested in the camera.

Wednesday, 12 October 2011

Do the people at Sigma need psychiatric help?

The "wood" edition of the Sigma SD1. An overpriced, unbelievably tacky version of an already overpriced camera. This is just about the worst taste I've ever seen in camera "special editions". For millionaires who have built bars in their homes with moose antlers above the fireplace.

Someone at Sigma, or maybe everyone at Sigma is in urgent need of therapy or drugs. Or maybe the latter explains this hideous creation.

Thursday, 28 July 2011

Sigma SD1 - Raw samples - More thoughts

Leica M9 Zeiss 50mm f/2 T* Planar
 Leica M9 Zeiss 50mm f/2 T* Planar

The Raw files from the SD1, kindly provided by photographers yesterday, illustrated both the virtues and the problems with this camera. Of course the main problem is the price! It is now available in the UK for a whopping £5,699!! You can buy 6 Nikon D7000's for that price. There's been enough discussion about the wisdom of Sigma's marketing strategy and I'm not going to do that again.

Initially yesterday I was very impressed with what I saw. The files when processed in Sigma Photo Pro looked very good indeed when I tried a few. However, having worked with them more and looked at more samples, there are more than a few problems. The colour is "odd". Considering the Foveon technology, with its 3 colour layers, is supposed to provide colour accuracy, I felt it should be better than it is. Many of the images have a pinky red hue thats quite difficult to get rid of. There's also a fair amount of highlight burn-out on some of the samples. Also there are some samples available that don't actually look that sharp.

When there is something close up in the frame, the camera produces quite breathtaking images, but with middle and far distance subjects, it seems to me that its nowhere near that good. This for example is where the Leica M9 really comes into its own.

Leica M9 Zeiss 50mm f/2 T* Planar
Leica M9 Zeiss 50mm f/2 T* Planar

One of the things that strikes me is the question of how much the sharpness and bite of the images has to do with the Foveon sensor(s) or the simple fact that there is no anti-aliasing filter. I said yesterday that the files I initially processed looked sharper and more detailed than Leica M9 files. While for some of them that is true, its a fairly easy process to get the M9 files to that level of sharpness. The M9 files also have a much nicer colour rendition, with deep rich colours.

Nikon D7000 10-24mm
Nikon D7000 10-24mm

I also experimented with some Nikon D7000 files. By adding some extra sharpening, I was able to get VERY close to the SD1 files. Incidentally, cranking up the sharpening on the SD1 files produced some very nasty results. Lots of sharpening "jaggies". I never got my D7000 files to look quite as crisp as the best of the SD1 files, but it was close. This, of course, takes account of the fact that the D7000 has an anti-aliasing filter.

There is the interesting question of what files from this Sony 16MP sensor would look like without an AA filter. My suspicion would be very good indeed.

Nikon D5100 16-85mm
Nikon D5100 16-85mm

So after some work, and working with a variety of samples, I'm somewhat less impressed than I initially was. This is of course the great benefit of having raw files rather than jpgs to work with.

The idea that the SD1 gives Medium-Format quality is to my mind quite misleading. Those samples that I worked with, clearly show that the SD1 falls some way short of that. Yes they interpolate very well, but then so do files from a Pentax 645, Leica S2 etc. Indeed so do files from cameras such as the Nikon D3X, Sony a900/850 or Leica M9. So, as far as I'm concerned, the larger sensors in these cameras have significant advantages.

Where it seems the SD1 is comparible with MF digital cameras, is in its speed of operation and functionality. Reports and reviews indicate very slow performance.

Some comments from the Luminous Landscape of the camera at:- http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sigma_sd1_review.shtml

"This brings us to the whole topic of write speed. Just about every other DSLR made over the past five years can walk and chew gum at the same time. The SD1 can't. I've had it explained to me that the problem isn't so much the camera's write speed as it is the in-camera processing that X3 files require. So be it. But, this doesn't change the fact that as a consequence the SD1 becomes a much slower camera to work with than its competitors.

For the amatuer working slowly and patiently, doing landscape work for example, this may not be a big issue. But for someone shooting weddings, fashion, reportage, etc, not having access to the camera's main settings and controls during extended card saves can make the difference between getting the shots, and not.

One other annoyance. The battery indicator is inaccurate. It can be showing two bars, and then 20 frames later flashes red. Even though the SD1's battery life is pretty good, always have a spare on hand."

This wouldn't really be a problem for me, but for others it might be.

The bottom line is would I buy it if it was a reasonable price? Yesterday I would have said yes, but today the answer to that is no. The more files I processed, the less I was impressed. 

For me at least the SD1 has become somewhat of a dead end. Sigmas pricing has of corse been the main contributing factor to that, but looking at a variety of samples by different photographers gives a very clear idea of how a camera performs. Many, if not most, of the samples were representative of what I shoot, so I got a good indication of how it would work for me. I obviously won't be working with one myself, so these impressions are based on the work of others, but I think that I've got a pretty good idea of what it might produce for me. 

There's nothing there that means I'm in any hurry to dispense with my M9 or indeed my Nikons. Indeed the more I see of results from other cameras the more I think that the D7000 and D5100 are absolute bargains.

Nikon D5100 16-85mm
Nikon D5100 16-85mm

Wednesday, 27 July 2011

Want to see what a Sigma SD1 can do?

The Photographer Carl Rytterfalk has kindly made some raw files available on his blog here - http://www.rytterfalk.com/2011/07/27/sd1-shangeri-la-raw-pack-4/



To process these you need the latest version of Sigma Photo Pro available here:- 


I've processed a few, and they are very good indeed. Actually thats something of an understatement! The level of detail is something I've never seen before, even on a Leica M9. 
I interpolated a file up to 60MB (21MP) and it still looked incredible.

All of this of course makes Sigma's pricing of the camera even crazier. If it wasn't so ludicrously expensive then they would, I'm sure, have sold lots of SD1's. However they seem to have ignored the lower price = more sales equation. At £2000 I would have bought one like a shot, but at £6000 or whatever price they are going to sell them for, I'm going to pass. A real shame since for what I do it would be an ideal camera.

Have a look, I'd be surprised if you're not impressed

UPDATE


Bob van Ooik has very kindly offered these.
For those who want more RAWs to play with I compiled a list of resources at http://www.x3magazine.com/2011/06/30/sigma-sd1-raws-for-your-pleasure/

Sunday, 17 July 2011

Sigma SD1 review at Luminous Landscape


An extremely comprehensive review of the SD1 at Luminous Landscape. 

"Resolution is remarkable....  Surpasses (by a small but noticable margin) the Sony A900 and A55 on-screen and at typical print sizes..."
 
"Not quite in Leica M9 territory though...could be the lenses as much as anything else"
 
"The Pentax 645D is in another league. The SD1 is no competitor to even the lower end of the current medium format market"


"Let's be frank. The SD1 is ridiculously overpriced. It's a decent APS-C camera with mid-level built quality; at about the $1,000 level. It has neither the features nor specifications of a Pro camera such as a Nikon D3x or Canon 1Ds MkIII, let alone a 5D MKII or Sony A900........"


"As we've seen there really is something attractively different, even somewhat special about the SD1's image quality. People have been claiming this for years with earlier models, and now we see it on a more mainstream model.

Is it magic? No, of course not. Is the SD1 better than any other mid-range DSLR. In terms of function and handling – no. In terms of image quality, it might very well be. And therein lies the quandary.

Its current retail price of $6,900 is clearly indefensible. The SD1 simply isn't, to my mind at least, worth that much money on any objective basis. This price makes it a $1,000 camera body with a $6,000 sensor. Fail.

If the camera were priced at under $2,500 it would sell by the tens of thousands, worldwide, and would likely generate significant new lens sales. At its current price Sigma will be luckily to sell a couple of hundred a month."

A really excellent review and well worth reading.

Reactions to it here:-
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1027&message=38920306

Saturday, 28 May 2011

Olympus E-P3? / Hatchet job on Sigma by Thom Hogan.

Silver Olympus E-P2 14-42 Kit Zoom

The Olympus E-P2 is due for an update, and there are all sorts of rumours circulating as to what it will be. 43rumors are indicating that Olympus will be coming out with a "Pro" (whatever that means) E-P3 and a "mini" Pen. On another site I put what I would like to see in an E-P3 and what I thought we might get.

What I'd Like
What I think we'll get

16MP Sensor
12MP Sensor

Built in EVF
No built in EVF

Articulated Screen
Articulated Screen

Better Grip
Same grip as before

Much better High ISO performance

Slightly better High ISO performance

Much faster AF
Slightly faster AF

Cleaned up menu system
Same menu system

12mm f/2 kit lens
12mm f/2 kit lens 

I really hope that I'm wrong. However Olympus now seem to be fairly conservative in their upgrades. If they do come out with less than I'm wishing for, I'll probably get one anyway. I just can't resist that retro silver chic!!

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On the Tom Hogan site under US$2805 Instant Savings a strong attack on the Sigma pricing fiasco.



A couple of comments:-
"For example, the sample images Sigma has now presented are beyond terrible."

"They claim 30mp equivalence. I'm sure that those are the numbers that they get from test charts, but test charts aren't what we take pictures of. The problem with the 30mp number is those sample images. I don't see a single one that looks like it equals what I get out of my D3x, let alone better it. Heck, most of the Sigma images don't look better than I get with my D5100. So, the published sample images are not the way to sell an expensive DSLR."

Well worth a read. 

Wednesday, 25 May 2011

Leica M9 on new footpath - M9 and Sigma SD1 file comparison.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

Selecting a camera to take out is simpler these days. Firstly there's less to choose from and since the Leica M9 now has a clean sensor I'm using that a lot more. The relative lightness of the camera with the one lens option I use on it (Zeiss 50mm f/2 T* Planar) worked well yesterday as I explored and photographed a new circular footpath created by the National Trust.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

I shot several multi-image panoramas.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

M9 SIGMA SD1 COMPARISON
One of the samples on the Sigma SD1 website is of a field of crops.


I shot something similar on the M9 yesterday, and have uploaded it to flickr at full resolution so you can see a comparison.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

Direct link here:-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45203414@N06/5755747544/sizes/l/in/photostream/

See if you can spot the insect on the original size file.


Tuesday, 24 May 2011

Leica M9 - the cheaper alternative to a Sigma SD1.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2
Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50mm f/2.

Unfortunately even Dpreview seem to have fallen victim to Sigmas publicity. "The company is talking in terms of the SD1 being a portable alternative to medium format cameras (which may not be entirely unfair, as the sensor has the potential to produce resolution similar to a 30MP Bayer-type sensor)." It may produce sharp results, you may love the look, but resolution is resolution. 

Its also going to have to do better than this:-




These are all 100% blowups from the samples on the Sigma SD1 website. You might be interested in seeing the same from the Leica image at the top.


All of these are edge samples. It seems the Sigma testers couldn't find a lens that was sharp enough across the entire frame to produce a decent image. Their marketing strategy of a ridiculous price coupled with ridiculous claims has received the reception it deserves.

There is an extremely good article by Michael Reichmann at Luminous Landscape on the SD1 at http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/rationalizing_the_irrational.shtml  Its well worth a read.

Meanwhile back to a camera that actually delivers. One that doesn't make claims it can't justify, one that has a range of lenses available that can actually take advantage of its sensor and one that won't nosedive in value once you've bought it.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2
Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50mm f/2.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2
Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50mm f/2.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2
Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50mm f/2.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2
Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50mm f/2.

Sunday, 22 May 2011

Leica M9 - Is this medium-format quality? Thoughts on the Sigma SD1.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

In the light of Sigma's claims that the SD1 produces medium-format quality, probably to justify its ridiculous price, can the Leica M9 be considered to do the same?

Well the simple answer is no. Medium-Format is really a definition of size and not quality, which is what makes the Sigma claims so bogus. In the days of film MF meant images of 6x4.5 cms, 6x6 cms, 6x7 cms, 6x8 cms, and 6x9cms. While the larger size negative or transparency usually meant that the image would reproduce better, that was not always the case. There were a few cheap alternatives that weren't especially good.

However they certainly were bigger, and meant that cropping was possible, while still producing a good quality image.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

Medium-format digital images are generated by a larger sensor, which again gives the possibility of cropping without loosing quality and certainly the Leica S2, Hassleblads and Phase One backs generate seriously impressive files, both in terms of resolution and, with the right lens, sharpness. Some like the Pentax 645D produce high resolution files, but from the samples I've seen, not biting sharpness.

So where does the Leica M9 fit into this. Yes it produces very sharp images. And yes the images are capable of being interpolated or blown up to larger sizes. I regularly turn mine into 25MP files before I send them off to picture libraries. But then genuine MF files are capable of the same, so in many ways its a pointless comparison.

The M9 is capable of many things.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

In the above example just look at the shades of green in the enlarged section that the camera is able to record.

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

Again, if you click through to the larger examples on flickr, you'll see just what the images are capable of.

It really doesn't matter whether the M9 is comparible with medium-format, as it simply produces very good images capable of large-scale reproduction. Comparing the samples I've downloaded from the Sigma website taken on the SD1, I prefer the Leica in almost every way. Sharpness, colour, depth etc. I still like the SD1 images, they are very attractive, but they are hardly likely to make the owners of M9's, D3X's etc. consign their cameras to the S/H market and rush to buy the Sigma. 

I wrote this for a post on serious compacts, and it sums up my thoughts about the SD1.

"I was a fan too. Had an SD14. I think its pretty much a convention that the MP figure relates to resolution, and virtually anyone who's in the market for a Sigma camera knows what they are getting, and its not 45MP. To me the real advantage has been the lack of an Anti-Aliasing filter. I've used several AA-less cameras, Kodaks, Sigma and now M9. To me it makes far more difference than anything to do with Foveon technology. Thats what makes the images look sharp. I remember seeing some images from a Nikon D3 with its AA filter removed, and it was a different camera.

I've had a look at all of the Sigma samples, and while they did look initially attractive, on close examination I got the impression that there is a lot of luminance smoothing and edge sharpening going on, which gives a very odd look. I don't find that particularly a problem, but others might.

With the improvements in Bayer sensors over the years since Sigma first started with this, I believe much of the perceived Foveon advantage has been eroded. The Leica M9 uses a Kodak Bayer sensor with no AA filter and the results from that are sharper and have better colour to my eyes. This in a camera that has a RRP lower than the Sigma!

As I say I like the look from the Foveon sensor. However I don't think its "better" than a Bayer sensor, and I don't think it can be in any way compared to genuine medium-format because it just doesn't have the resolution. Yes you can upsize the files, but then you can upsize files from an M9, S2 or Hassleblad just the same. I bought my M9 because I interpolated some sample raw files up to the same size as those from my D3X and felt they looked sharper. Cameras like the D3X and Sony a900 etc. do use fairly strong AA filters, because of what they will get used for. No one who shoots fashion for example is prepared to tolerate any moire at all. Interpolating these Sigma samples up to 24MP gave me results somewhat inferior to those from my M9. So it doesn't look like medium Format quality to me.

I'd have loved to try an SD1, and at £1000-1500 I would have. Anything over that and I'll pass. What has possessed Sigma to price it as they have is a mystery to me. Most users of SD14's and 15's simply can't afford it, so thats destroying their primary market. I can't see "Pro's" rushing out to buy it either. Firstly they are concerned about price as well, and Secondly its an untried system. Sure M9's and D3X's are expensive, but Leica and Nikon have a reputation and the cameras are re-sellable at decent prices. Look at what S/H Sigma DSLR's go for.

I think we all probably realise that the 3-layer sensor is going to be more difficult to produce and more expensive, and those of us who were interested in the camera would be prepared to pay a little more. However it seems Sigma are attempting to pass on all the costs to us. They have now put themselves in an almost impossible situation. If they reduce the price then nobody is going to trust them anymore. This on top of the fact that they announced some time ago that it would be priced the same as a Canon 7D, which has really angered current Sigma owners who feel cheated, and who can blame them. If they keep it at its current price, or something similar then I think its pretty certain that they will sell very few cameras.

There's a story here and at some point in the future we may get some idea of what's gone on. To me, and virtually the whole on-line photographic community, it looks like some huge self-destruct and the beginning of the end for Sigma as a camera manufacturer. I can't see any other alternative. If they think that somehow this camera is going to turn them into a small volume, high quality specialist camera manufacturer, then I think they are wrong. I must be pretty much in their target market. I'm professional, I shoot mainly landscape for stock and I make a good enough living to be able to afford it (Though this would probably require selling my M9) However I think the results I've seen so far don't justify it, the lack of a good enough reputation for re-selling the camera don't justify it, my previous experiences with Sigma and the Foveon sensor don't justify it and finally my lack of trust in the company because of how they have misled people doesn't justify it."

So in the end, I'm not that concerned about "Medium-format" quality. I don't have to pretend that my camera(s) are something they are not. Sigma obviously feel the need to do just that. That is a real shame, since this whole SD1 disaster is probably going to result in a very innovative technology being consigned to history, and a genuine alternative being used by very few people. If Sigma, who can't be unaware of the reaction, rethink and come up with a realistic price then they might still salvage something from this, though with a tarnished reputation. If they don't then I'm not personally not going to loose sleep over it. However, there are many current Sigma camera owners who will. They have been cheated, misled and taken for granted. From their reactions and comments they are not pleased, and are angry and disappointed. I for one fully understand their frustration and unhappiness, it remains to be seen whether Sigma do. 

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

Leica M9 Zeiss T* Planar 50m f/2

Friday, 20 May 2011

Is this a joke?










Sigma announce the SD1. From Dpreview:- http://www.dpreview.com/news/1105/11052010sigmasd1.asp $9700 or £6200. Sigma are claiming it is a 45MP Medium Format camera!!

This is frankly ridiculous. Firstly, its not a medium-format camera, Secondly, its actually a 15MP camera because thats the size of the files, Thirdly, its more expensive than a Leica M9 and I really want to see some samples that demonstate its better than that, Fourthly you have to use Sigma lenses on it, great value but hardly the best.

I used a Sigma SD14 and while if you shot multi-panoramas with it, it produced a decent file size, if you didn't they were very small and the equivalent of a 4MP camera, which interpolated very badly. The panoramas I created with it were good but they weren't that good. The colour was nice and they were quite sharp because of the lack of an an anti-aliasing filter, but again they weren't that sharp.

The results that I got from my Leica M8 were every bit as sharp, had equally good colour and were genuine 10MP files.

If the SD1 can't produce results that are genuinely the equivalent of a medium-format back or an M9 then it will get slaughtered, which strikes me as counter-productive because Foveon technology is interesting.

Finally, just who is going to buy this? I'm absolutely the target market for this and there's no way I'm paying £6200 for it. If it produced the same results as a Leica S1 or a Pentax 645D, which I suspect it will struggle to do, then I still wouldn't buy it. I can pretty much get the same results as those two camera by shooting multi-images on the M9, and in the case of the 645D, better results. I'm really shocked by this and keep thinking that the mistake will be corrected.

UPDATE

http://www.sigma-sd.com/SD1/sample-photo/index.html is a site with some samples. Its working very slowly at the moment however. The files look sharp and the colours are good, but there's a great landscape that has really soft edges, showing the problems with the lenses you have to use. The results are certainly way better than the SD14, but they are still 15MP pictures in terms of resolution. Also everything is shot at ISO 100, and you ask the question why haven't they posted higher ISO images. Certainly the SD14 was only good at base ISO, anything higher was very disappointing. I would have happily paid £2000 for this camera that produces results like this, as its very suitable for what I do. However three times that is ridiculous. As someone said in the Dpreview forum. What have they been smoking?

UPDATE 2

Having looked at the sample images on an iMac 27" screen I'm not sure I would pay £2000 for this camera after all. Looked at big on a very sharp screen, there's something a bit "plastic" about the files. Viewed small they look sensational, but once you view at a larger size they are not so impressive. As before with the SD14 I don't think they interpolate very well either. I blew a couple up to around 71MB and compared them with similarly upsized Leica M9 files, and the latter looked superb, easily better than Sony a850 files, the Sigma files lost all their bite.

I do realise these are only jpgs, but Sigma have always put wonderful samples on their websites, and indeed their samples convinced me to buy an SD14.

Overall this has to be a huge mistake. Its clearly not a medium-format camera. How on earth can a 1.5 crop sensor be medium-format? Its not even up to the quality of a top of the range DSLR and its more expensive than anything else on the market at its level. It looks to me like the price charged is a reflection of just how much its cost them to develop this, which must have been very difficult and very expensive. Maybe they shouldn't have bothered. Sony are proving just what you can do with a Bayer sensor and the advantages, if there are any anymore, of the Foveon are being eroded.

I spent some time on the Dpreview Sigma forum and I've never seen such disappointment and anger. Every single post condemns the company for this pricing disaster and its obvious that people were waiting in great anticipation for what this camera might produce. Many I think would have been happy at what it produces if the price was realistic. I think Sigma are about to set some kind of precedent. How to loose your core market at a single stroke and at the same time fail to attract any new customers whatsoever. If they are still making cameras in two years time I'll be very surprised.

Tuesday, 4 January 2011

Sigma and the Foveon Sensor

Sigma SD14


I used an Sigma SD14 for a while and the files were impressive at their native size, which was very small. Under the right conditions the colour and sharpness were very good indeed, but it was only really useable at base ISO.


I just wonder if Sigma can make the SD1 work with the larger size and whether they can improve the higher ISO's. Their previous cameras have been great for landscape photographers but hardly anyone else.


Sigma SD14


In the meantime there have also been vast improvements to Bayer sensors, and I wonder if they can come up with something special. Leica / Kodak have shown that no anti-aliasing filter doesn't have to mean bad high ISO but the Foveon sensor is something else. Nobody else has touched it and its taken so long to come up with a version that produces images of a useable size that I wonder if there are particular problems with it.


It will be interesting to see some samples when it appears.


Sigma SD14


There's a certain number of Photographers who would like to see manufacturers offer a non-anti-aliased sensor option of their cameras. Thom Hogan has been on at Nikon to do this for years. I saw some images from a D3 with its AA filter removed and they were spectacular. Imagine a D3X sensor with that done.


Would that then negate any advantage that the Foveon sensor has?


Sigma SD14


Sigma SD14


Sigma SD14


All images shot on a Sigma SD14.

Wednesday, 22 September 2010

Sigma SD1 and the Foveon sensor















http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10092129sigmasd1.asp

Photokina 2010 is interesting in that the gear that is stirring up lots of interest is not from the big two, Canon and Nikon but some of the smaller companies. Certainly the Fuji X100 has created a real stir. That was a surprising announcement and equally surprising and welcome news is that Sigma have finally come out with a Foveon Sensor that produces images of a decent size.


The Foveon works differently in that it layers its pixels vertically in colour layers. What this means in real terms is that the figures that Sigma quote for MP need to be divided by three to indicate how big their camera files are. So the SD15 with its advertised 14MP in fact produces a file in terms of size of just over 4.6 MP. The full size of an SD15 file is 13.3 MB. 


Because of the three colour layers and the lack of an Anti-Aliasing filter the images are sharp with wonderful colours but are only just under 9 x 6" at 300 ppi. They can be slightly interpolated but this reduces the quality substantially.


I had an SD14 and loved the look of the images. I shot mostly multi image panoramas with it since the single files couldn't be made large enough to use for my stock work. 


However it produced beautiful looking pictures.


Sigma SD14


Sigma SD14


Sigma SD14


Sigma SD14


Sigma SD14


Sigma SD14


The colours weren't particularly accurate but had a lovely warm glow, which I liked. When I bought my Leica M8 that camera reminded me very much of the Sigma. Same sharpness and lovely colour.


Ultimately I stopped using the Sigma and sold it. The small file size was very frustrating. Now nearly three years later, out of the blue they come up with a 46MP camera. This means that it will produce files 15MP in terms of size. Thats very useable. I always thought that if they could get the foveon sensor to produce larger files then it could produce sensational results. It seems however that the SD1 isn't yet finished and there are certainly no samples to view at the moment. 


I'm still interested in what they can come up with, though in many ways the Leica M9 does everything that the foveon sensor promised. It could be a disappointment, since there are obviously reasons why its taken them so long to come up with this. However if they do get it right we could be on the verge of something quite special.


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