Showing posts with label Sony e-mount 18-55mm. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sony e-mount 18-55mm. Show all posts

Tuesday, 10 April 2012

The Sony NEX lens mantra

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm kit zoom lens
All pictures - Sony NEX-7 18-55mm kit zoom lens

Repeat after me:-

THE SONY E-MOUNT LENS MANTRA

All Sony e-mount lenses are rubbish. (Except for the Zeiss 24mm because thats....... well ITS ZEISS!)
Anything (everything) is better than a Sony e-mount lens.
They are soft, distorted nasty little things and should be put out of their misery ASAP.
If you buy one you are an idiot.

etc. etc. You know how it goes. Its repeated ad infinitum across the photographic internet. Usually of course by people who haven't used them.

The problem is that nobody told Sony about this. 

Along with the 16mm f/2.8 pancake, the lens that comes in for a serious trashing every time anyone mentions it, is the 18-55mm kit zoom. I'm currently using the black one that came with my second NEX-7. This morning I was editing some pictures taken with it and yet again I'm really impressed by it.

Its actually very good, in fact I'd go further than that, its really excellent. Its sharp, processed in Photoshop CS6 it has NO, I'll repeat that, NO CA or fringing. Its sharp across the frame, unless its used wide open. it has excellent colour rendition and the IS system works a treat. Whats not to like? 

I sold my previous two samples. Because I believed that the 18-200mm lens would be better and more useful. Well we all make mistakes I guess. 

So the next time you read someone bashing this lens, remember that there is one lone voice in the wilderness, i.e. me, saying something different. But then what do I know? I just sell the pictures I take with it.

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm kit zoom lens

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm kit zoom lens

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm kit zoom lens


Sony NEX-7 18-55mm kit zoom lens

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Wednesday, 28 March 2012

More NEX-7 Peak District images - more on the quality of the 18-55mm and 55-210mm zooms.

Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom

All images © David and Ann Taylor-Hughes

Busy day yesterday. More of this summer weather in the UK. All images here taken with the Sony zooms. 


"Hugo Benichi  -  Photozone are famous for getting their resolution test totally wrong. Lenstip have showed once they had many tests published with software sharpened "resolutions" above the physical limit of the sensor for example. Also, it is pretty obvious these tests are made by many different persons who cannot exactly have the same protocol.

In any case the same lens does not perform worse on an increased resolution sensor, all other technologies being equal (like microlenses issues)."
 
The bottom line of course is that without these lenses we wouldn't have these pictures.
 
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom 
 
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
 
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
 
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
 
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
 
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
 
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
 
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
 
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
 
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
 
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom 
 
Its obviously in the interest of certain sites to stir up debate about gear, since that attracts people to them and therefore generates revenue. Though in my experience, not very much of it! I go on endlessly about the exaggeration of small differences, the value judgements and the hyperbole on certain sites and forums. This then gets passed around and usually further embellished and conclusions and opinions get so polarised that it becomes almost impossible to make a balanced judgement. 
 
Sifting through all of this is also made worse because certain sites and magazines are dependant on the "goodwill" of camera manufacturers to keep providing them with review samples, in order that they can continue to be relevant. So will they "bite the hand that feeds them"?? Add in a touch of quasi-scientific justification with a few graphs and charts and you have a recipe for confused misinformation. If I'm looking for information on a camera or lens, I stick to certain tried and trusted sources. Dpreview get it right most of the time, and I very rarely disagree with them on gear that I have used myself, so I tend to believe them about gear that I haven't used. Kirk Tuck and Luminous Landscape can be relied upon to give a decent balanced assessment, though the Fuji X-Pro 1 "review" on the latters site recently was an example of innacuracy and "vested interest fanboyism" but then I can ignore the writer in the future. 
 
The point of all this is that I sometimes despair for the photographer, with a limited budget, looking to make a decision about what gear to buy for the next year or so. I'm in the fortunate position of being able to change something if I don't like it, but not everyone can do that. If for example I was looking to spend my finite funds on a high-end mirrorless / CSC outfit, would I choose the Olympus OM-D, Sony NEX-7, Fuji X-Pro1 or something else? In the end, in terms of the final image quality that I would produce, there is far less difference than is made out. There are differences in high ISO performance certainly and if that is important, the Fuji is the best, though the most expensive. 
 
There are however significant differences in handling and responsiveness and the general feel of the cameras. There are places where you get information on this, and that is where the forums can come in handy. The camera you buy may take wonderful pictures but if you aren't comfortable using it then it can become a burden. 
 
What I try to do here is to give an account of how I find camera / lens combinations to work with and what the results look like to me. Allowing for the provisos that I shoot outdoors, in good light, at low ISO's and the fact that I have my own prejudices, I hope that my experiences are useful in some way. 

Finally getting to the point, I would make these observations about the Sony 18-55mm and 55-210mm zooms which I have been shooting with for the last three days. No, they aren't the greatest zoom lenses ever made in terms of image quality, but neither are they the worst. Their great advantage is that they are VERY useful. They are well-made, fast and easy to use with excellent IS (Don't underestimate this as an aid to sharpness by the way) With the NEX-7 sensor they produce images capable of large - scale reproduction both for publication and for personal print use. The notion that they are somehow "sub-standard" or "incapable of showing what the NEX-7 sensor can do" is from my experience with the copies I have, totally untrue. 
 
Those who read here regularly will know that I have pretty exacting standards, both in terms of the fact that taking pictures is my job and the fact that I'm like that anyway! If I had the slightest doubt that using these lenses put me at a disadvantage either commercially or to satisfy my own personal standards then I wouldn't use them. Yes the Zeiss 24mm and my m-mount Voigtlanders are (slightly) sharper, but this is nothing that a very small amount of sharpening can't sort out. With ACR 7 raw conversion both lenses are virtually free from CA and I can produce high-quality files from both.

It has become the latest internet blood sport to trash the NEX lenses and having owned and used all of the current ones, for the life of me I can't understand why. The quality that you get from files taken with these lenses is more dependent on correct exposure, the stability of the camera and careful raw processing anyway. The sensor is more important than the lens and zoom lenses are zoom lenses. They aren't as fast or as sharp as primes, but boy are they useful. 

I'm not saying that you should rush out and buy a NEX-7 + 18-55mm lens. But if you feel, after considering all the options, that combination is right for you and will satisfy your needs then I would urge you to treat some of these dire warnings about how "bad" that lens is, with extreme skepticism.

Monday, 26 March 2012

My "rather miserable" Sony 18-55mm lens.

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
All images - Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom © David and Ann Taylor-Hughes

There's more Sony lens bashing here:- http://www.photozone.de/sony_nex/724-sony1855f3556oss.
Its kind of becoming an internet sport!

"The Sony E 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS may perform decently on lower resolution NEX cameras (the 3 and 5 series). However, its capabilities are clearly overstrained on Sony's 24 megapixel sensor. In so far it is very surprising that Sony is also offering it bundled with the NEX 7. The quality is rather miserable at 18mm and if you want to achieve reasonably sharp results across the image field you should generally avoid large aperture settings at the other focal lengths as well. Another weakness is the high amount of lateral CAs at 18mm and 35mm."

"However, it is obvious that this fairly new lens is already outdated - it is just not good enough anymore at 24 megapixels.
Optical Quality:   
Mechanical Quality:
Price/Performance: 

Pretty damning!! So how come I think its the best kit lens I've used?

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

This goes to show the difference between testing and using a lens in the "real world". I'm not going to show you any graphs or show you any samples.When I use the lens, I use it at its optimum apertures f/5.6 - f/11. I shoot raw files and use the Sony lens profile in Adobe Camera Raw. I also now use the updated ACR 7, with its auto CA removal. So to a large extent I'm taking care of the "problems" of CA, vignetting and distortion in the "review". As to sharpness, well I'm happy with that. If I felt I was compromising quality I wouldn't use it.

It would be nice if all lenses performed brilliantly in lens tests. However if we want light, small(ish), relatively inexpensive, lenses then we have to accept that they are going to be "corrected", "Improved", call it what you will, using software / firmware. I'm perfectly happy with that. Others may not be. I'm VERY happy with the results I can get from the 18-55mm zoom on my NEX-7. I have no idea whether the test was conducted using jpgs, or raw, so can't comment on that. I also can't comment on whether there is a variation in quality in the lenses and that I have a "good one" and the tester has a "bad one". I have no way of knowing that. All I can say is that I'm happy with my lens and satisfied with its performance. 

I do have this, totally unsubstantiated I might add!, theory that the black ones bundled with the NEX-7, might be different (i.e. "better") than the silver ones that come with other cameras. Certainly my completely unscientific and untested opinion is that this black one I have is sharper than the silver ones I had before. Since I don't have the others anymore I can't compare them.

In the end its a question of using your own eyes. The "review / test" doesn't actually show any image samples or comparison shots, so make of that what you will. Finally if you click on the Sony e-mount 18-55mm link underneath this post you'll find all my other posts about the lens.








                                                         

 

On location with the NEX-7

Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom

All images © David and Ann Taylor-Hughes / Soundimageplus

For the first time ever, I (we) have gone on an extended, away from home, landscape / location / stock shooting trip without a (D)SLR. The equipment for this consists of two Sony NEX-7's and a Panasonic GX1 / 20mm f/1.7 as a backup. Yesterday was spent using one of the NEX-7's and the 18-55mm and 55-210mm zooms.

Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

This is somewhat early in the year but seemingly the UK is currently having its summer in March and October! The temperature is close to what we get in June and July over here and yesterday was non-stop sunshine with the forecast pretty much the same for the rest of the week. 

We are currently staying in the house that you see in the pictures with the daffodils, which has a 360 degree view over the Derbyshire Peak District which is where we are photographing. We are 1000 ft. up and this morning there was a frost on the fields. Not a place to stay in winter, but in weather like this its idyllic. We were very pleased with yesterdays pictures and hopefully this will continue. 

More tomorrow.

Tuesday, 20 March 2012

Sony 18-55mm and 55-210mm zooms.

Sony NEX-7 18-55, 55-210mm zooms
Sony NEX-7 18-55, 55-210mm zooms

Yesterday I went out with the two NEX-7's. One fitted with the 18-55mm (black version) and the other with the 55-210mm. Even with two cameras and two lenses this is a very light outfit.

 Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom

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Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom  

What I found interesting when I looked at the images is that the black 18-55mm seems to produce sharper images than either of the two silver ones I had with my NEX-5n's. This could mean that Sony are only releasing their best examples with the NEX-7, they have an entirely new production run (though they claim this is the same lens) or that I have a particularly good one. Here's a few comparisons and 100% blowups.

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 18-55mm zoom

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8

Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom
Sony NEX-7 55-210mm zoom







Sunday, 15 January 2012

That "film look"

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens

When talking about how punchy and colourful the film scans that I've been posting recently look, I had of course forgotten that many of them were taken with filters in place. I had a whole set of grad. filters, warm ups of various strengths, and of course, obligatory for every 1990's "coffee table book" landscaper, a set of circular polarising filters.

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens

Though I haven't used any of these for about 10 years, I found a 49mm one which fits my Zeiss 24mm and the 18-55mm kit lens for the NEX-7, and I've spend the last two days down memory lane, twiddling about with it.

I remember vaguely that there were some problems with these in the early days of digital, but I can't remember what! However, no problems whatsoever with the NEX-7. As you can see, its a pretty dramatic effect.

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens

Over the top? Well possibly, but then I've never had any trouble selling pictures that make the UK look like Provence. I'm a colour saturation junkie anyway, and to be fair the last two days have been freezing cold but with this wonderful clear light and of course, deep rich blue skies. We don't get light like this here that often, so it was a good opportunity to get the polariser out and let it do its thing.

In addition to pumping up the blue sky, it does also enhance other colours and help to get a more balanced exposure by altering the dynamic range. Like many of these things it can be quite addictive and I did spend far too much time making sure I was at the right angle to maximise the effect.

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 lens

Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens
Sony NEX-7 Zeiss 18-55mm kit zoom  lens

How much I'll continue to use this I'm not sure, but I did use polarising filters a lot when I was shooting film. Its great fun and there is no denying that it certainly makes the images jump out from the screen. I'm sure the "colour police" (those people who criticise any photograph that moves away from the bland and the flat, in some vain attempt to equate photography with reality) will disapprove, but I've never taken any notice of that anyway. I was very much a Fuji Velvia photographer as opposed to the somewhat dull rendition of Fuji Provia and these are pretty close to a digital equivalent of that.

One of the reasons I'm enjoying my film scanning so much, is that I can get this wonderful colour depth. It seems I can now get that with digital, under certain circumstances, and I will certainly be doing more of it. All I need now is the weather!!